Welcome to the Real Us!

We are the hosts of this website focused on marriage intimacy.

We have been married for 48+ years and have a deep love for couples who struggle in marriage.

In 2008, we began serving in the re|engage Marriage ministry at Watermark Church in Dallas.  Since then we have facilitated 15 groups, mentored leaders and worked with dozens of couples.  We’ve also worked with dozens of couples using the SYMBIS Assessment.

We enjoy hiking, backpacking, tandem cycling, traveling, time with family, Texas BBQ and an occasional margarita.

We have two married daughters, two wonderful son-in-laws and eight grandchildren.

With the Real Us Ministry, we offer encouragement and resources for marriages based on the re|engage marriage ministry principles and the SYMBIS assessment..